new england wintertime

topic posted Wed, January 7, 2004 - 12:50 PM by  Unsubscribed
fellow new englanders and lovers of new england,
the board has been quiet lately.
what is going on with everyone?
let's talk

belle
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    Re: new england wintertime

    Wed, January 7, 2004 - 2:45 PM
    My boiler decided to quit on me last night but it's all good now. Just in time for the subzero temps on Friday. (-1F/-20F with windchill)

    Hurrah!

    Now everything will be fine assuming the car starts.
  • Re: new england wintertime

    Sun, January 11, 2004 - 3:25 PM
    I wonder how much of our relationship to the winter here is a matter of cultural conditioning - culture meaning a bunch of random habits that by chance become ingrained in a group of people. When I was in Norway people seemed to have a more loving relationship (that might sound strange or stupid) with the bitter weather, and so it made them suffer less.
    A related thought : a lot of people say that the cold brings on a feeling of abandonment in them.. maybe if we felt less abandoned to the vicissitudes of unrestrained commodity capitalism we would feel the cold less keenly, both physically and emotionally.
    crouched by my imaginary space heater,
    matt
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      Re: new england wintertime

      Mon, January 12, 2004 - 9:25 AM
      I do not think people who live here in New England necessarily *hate* the cold. They do, after all, live here, knowing full well what the weather is like, including its freezing temperatures and inconsistencies. I cannot speak for everyone, though. Personally, I really enjoy this weather. Pulling on thermals and leg warmers every day and sliding stiffly down the street is an experience only had for a brief while each year and you must relish in it.
      So question...when you say 'cultural conditioning'...what exactly do you mean...are we conditioned to loathe the cold weather, to complain about it incessantly? To the point that the only subject people can talk about to anyone is the weather? Why is that? Weather and traffic. But at the same time, as we are complaining, I sense we all feel a certain growing nervous excitement in our stomachs as our eyes are glued to rj heim and gary ley for the latest 'winter storm watch' a love/hate situation i think is what it is, as well as a love of bad fortune, dark times, perhaps the romanticization of being stuck in your warm house as the snow rages on...but I have really only experienced winters in new england, so I cannot comment on what other locales are like, how the people respond to them elsewhere (norway,ex.)
      I do like your comment on the feelings of abandoment in the cold and capitalistic society...if we did more things for ourselves and not expect others to do so, the winter indeed, I think would be an exhilerating time for many. But I feel as if people often times become helpless at the slightest stray from the usual, the few extra inches of snow, the *sale* they could not get to because of the snow...
      etc., etc.,,,
      so, good thoughts.
      anyone else?
      *belle*
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        Re: new england wintertime

        Mon, January 12, 2004 - 11:59 AM
        i left california for this weather, because this is what i grew up in. i love this climate. perhaps, that's what was meant by "cultural conditioning".

        despite the occasional inconveniences, the occasional white-knuckling driving experience, winter is a grand experience in new england. trust me, being nestled inside a warm house on a snowy day is something DESIRABLE. even diehard californians will look out of their windows on a january day, see the gun-metal sky and soggy yard, and wish something more interesting happened.

        i mean, other than annual forest fires and mudslides...
        • Re: new england wintertime

          Tue, January 13, 2004 - 10:49 AM
          I love the cold and New England. I couldn't imagine living anywhere else. Having four seasons is a blessing. I only wish it would snow a little more (here in RI), and that we would get the snow/rain mix less often and just get the snow.
  • Re: new england wintertime

    Wed, January 14, 2004 - 6:06 AM
    i agree with 'belle'. since i am currently living in london, there has been no such winter as i know it. and it really has an effect on how i feel.

    it's so wet and not so cold that my expectations keep turing towards spring. but spring is not near. this confuses my senses and creates this phenonmena of incomplete awareness. that excitement that builds and spills during spring is not coming, it's a trick. i don't like being tricked. there must be a lot between memory and weather. can the evil genius who runs the cultural conditioning industry plan this happening?

    in many ways, this happens to me when a day in a particular season is off, more so when in the winter. other people relish this. my mother, for example, loves warm weather whenever and however it comes. she has lived in springfield, mass her whole life and still adamently hates the 'bitter cold' as she says. still, i think it is more than hating cold weather for her, i think it is a kind of catharsis, because she is always out in it, shovelling or walking. she doesn't hide away from it.

    as far as i know, new england is one of the few places in the us that is known for its particular weather. of course this affects the way people live there. but to say a 'hate' for the cold is a conditioning derived from a capitalist scheme is ridiculous; there'd have to be more done than a throwing around of intellectual terms. i like winter. but there have been winters where i've smashed my head on the ice and nearly been runover. or ice balls in the face. or being locked-out of my house with nowhere to go. if i went on those, i could say i hate winter. winter happens.

    to winter, then!
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      Re: new england wintertime

      Wed, January 14, 2004 - 6:56 AM
      to winter, indeed! automated response: after reading your post, i felt your sentiments exactly. to experience a winter that is anything less than what i am used to, the cold, new england winter, would not seem like winter at all. i picture you in cold, rainy london, torn between thoughts of winter and spring and remember days i have felt like that; unusually warm days in winter or sudden cold days in summer (which i prefer to the warm in winter, though). being comfortably embedded in a season is what i love. i have always had problems when the seasons started to change, the early spring days that are cold and cool and rainy, but perhaps one day warm...maybe because i am prone to colds and sickness during this time. but suddenly having a really warm day in winter makes me uncomfortable and a little upset...but i would like to hear a bit more of the weather in london, especially as it relates to the new england weather in winter, which is what you know the best. what about a few years ago, when you were traveling around? or winter in spain? how was that? i would love to hear more on this...
      *belle*

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